Following a successful legal appeal, the Peugeot E7 is now licensed to be used as a taxi in Liverpool and Norwich. As a result, London’s PCO is now said to be re-considering at a meeting next month, the Conditions of Fitness that previously barred this and other vehicles presently used in the provinces from entering the London taxi market, on the grounds that any taxi working in London had to comply with the requirement of a 25 foot turning circle.
   Meeting this strict licensing stipulation allowed the Mercedes Vito to ply for hire on the streets of London, the only marque, apart from the ‘iconic’ world famous LTI product, to meet the current Conditions of Fitness.
   With a possible PCO ‘U Turn’ in mind, Call Sign
went out on to the streets of the big city, canvassing the opinions of some of our drivers to this news...

Don Bain (O53) TX2 owner
:Don Bain "This is just not on. What’s next? Tachographs? I agree we need competition, but the lack of a 25’ turning circle is simply unrealistic. I cannot understand the logic of it. The PCO should be working to improve our conditions, not hamper us."

Michael Dyer (S68) TX4:Michael Dyer
"Competition is a good idea to open up the market and widen the choice for drivers, but - and it’s a big but - it will kill the London taxi second-hand market. I don’t see how it can work in London."

Ivor Belkin (C97) TX2:
Ivor Belkin"It’s the beginning of the short straw, a roundabout way of getting PH fully licensed. No, not the sticker thing that currently prevails, but ‘plates’. Do the 2012 Olympics come to mind? Cabs won’t be worth anything, because the second-hand market will collapse, even though it would reduce the cost of a new cab."

George Christou (E14) TX4:George Christou "
Er, no, not a good idea! It will destroy the residual value of

Following the successful E7 legal Appeal, Call Sign asked DaC drivers...

SHOULD THE TAXI MARKET BE OPEN TO ALL???

the pre-owned taxis for a start, so that’s going to leave many unhappy owners. Has anyone thought about trying to get a vehicle with a normal turning circle onto the Eurostar rank, for instance? There are many other tight spots I can think of, but that will do as an example."

Colin Salmon
(N81) Mercedes Vito: "The Vito had Colin Salmonto adapt to meet the present Conditions before it could enter the London market, and I think loyalty to tradition in this case is a good thing. So yes, the 25-foot ability should be kept. I think it will be beneficial to the trade."

Geoff Davis (Y71) TX2: Geoff Davis"
I think it would be a good idea to relax the tight turning circle facility, as it would open the market to other manufacturers. But would these other types of taxis have wheelchair access? Hopefully, with wider choice, the price of a new cab would come down. But in reality, my greatest fear would be the loss of our ‘iconic’ identity. We are recognised as what we are throughout the world and to lose that recognition would be an absolute disaster."

Terry Parsons (M53) TX2:Terry Parsons
"Well, the PCO made such a big deal about retaining the 25ft. turning circle last time, so if now they are considering scrapping it, that is definitely not good news. If a car makes a 3 or even 5 point turn in front of you, that’s ok, but a cab? It’s all part of the cabbing job surely to be able to turn easily and therefore safely in the opposite direction as passengers require and with the minimum of fuss. Can you imagine trying to stop for a fare on the other side of the road, Oxford Street perhaps? Oh, please! I once had a problem with my steering box, which not only meant it was heavy turning the steering wheel, but a limited lock as well. What a game that was."
Paul Campbell (W68) TX1:Paul Campbell "Yes, I’ve read a bit about this possible PCO turnaround. We are forced into buying a particular type of product and now we’re being pushed into a corner re our iconic status and will lose our exclusive right to pick up off the street. The MB Vito had to meet the current legislation to enter the London market, so why shouldn’t everyone else? I bet it’s the Olympics and the PHVs are taking advantage of the legal ruling? It’s may be the Olympics in the short-term, but a long-term view for street hirings. Well, if they want to do that, the answer is simple - if they want to do our job then let them do the Knowledge!"

Keith Reading (W76) TX1:
Keith Reading"I’m in two minds about it really. I have ridden in an E7 in St. Neots and it was a comfortable ride, so on that basis I see no real reason why they shouldn’t be admitted into London. Personally, though, I like the 25’ circle, but I don’t think it’s the be-all and end-all of the vehicle. I bought a TX1, realising the residual value of an LTI cab over a Metro, but I don’t think there’s enough business at present to justify the cost of a new cab."

Mark Stansbury (M94) MB Vito: Mark Stansbury
"What? I had a problem with my rear-wheel steering and got stuck in Liverpool Street, which was not much fun. I can’t imagine what it must be like to live with on an everyday basis, although other parts of the country do not insist on a 25ft. turn, true, but I think we need the turning circle for the London job. Having to regularly make 3 or even 5-point turns is going to slow down traffic terribly. It will not make us popular with either our passengers or other road users. I can hear the blaring horns now! Disabled groups may have an accessibility view and there will always be the hard core of drivers who will opt for the TX shape, but I suppose further competition could mean better build quality in taxis."

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